Sitting in a church, spouting Christian platitudes occasionally, makes one no more of a Christian, then sitting in your garage beeping like a car horn, makes one a car.
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National Center for Constitutional Studies Discover the 28 fundamental beliefs of the Founding Fathers which they said must be understood and perpetuated by every people who desired peace, prosperity, and freedom. These beliefs have made possible more progress in 200 years than was made previously in over 5,000 years. Thus the title "The 5,000 Year Leap". The following is a brief overview of the principles found in The 5,000 Year Leap, and one chapter is devotes to each of these 28 principles. Principle 1 - The only reliable basis for sound government and just human relations is Natural Law. Natural law is God's law. There are certain laws which govern the entire universe, and just as Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence, there are laws which govern in the affairs of men which are "the laws of nature and of nature's God." Principle 2 - A free people cannot survive under a republican constitution unless they remain virtuous and morally strong. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin Principle 3 - The most promising method of securing a virtuous people is to elect virtuous leaders. "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who ... will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." - Samuel Adams Principle 4 - Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained. "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.... And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion." - George Washington Principle 5 - All things were created by God, therefore upon him all mankind are equally dependent, and to him they are equally responsible The American Founding Fathers considered the existence of the Creator as the most fundamental premise underlying all self-evident truth. They felt a person who boasted he or she was an atheist had just simply failed to apply his or her divine capacity for reason and observation. Principle 6 - All mankind were created equal. The Founders knew that in these three ways, all mankind are theoretically treated as: 1. Equal before God. 2. Equal before the law. 3. Equal in their rights. (MORE) http://www.xmissio n.com/~nccs/ftyl.h tml (Oct 25, 2007 | post #102)
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I never said Jefferson was a Unitarian. The comment was that he was more Unitarian than either deist or Christian. It was not a statement labeling him as a self avowed Unitarian. Yes Jefferson has a major influence on the making of the Constitution, but he "was not" the only Founder that impacted that document. It seems because Jefferson's writings are more favorable to the secularists point of view, that he is the only one that they trot out to bloster their view point. If people don't take into account the intire documentaion of the Founders then the conclousions drawn will be distrorted. In my research I've tried to take into account all viewpoints. The reason I wish to see Christianities influence aknowledged is because unless as a nation sees where the thoughts and idea originated from, then you can't hope to keep the form of govenment the Founders made. Google the words "viturous, and the Founding Fathers." They believed that in order for a free society to remain free its people must be virtuous in their private and public lives and that Christianity and the Bible taught how to be virtuous. There are tons of quotes out there that ether side can us to bolster their point of view. Ether one side is right, or the other is. Or maybe there is a combination of both. I've found in my research of what the true nature and influence of Christianity was on the founding has lead me to believe through overwhelming evidence that, yes indeed the Christian beliefs of the Founders did indeed have a major influence on the construction of the Constitution, and the founding of this nation. When I started my research I was looking for the truth of the matter. If I had found the claims of the those that believe the nation was founded as a totally secular nation, without any other influences except the philosophies of the age of enlightenment then I would have gladly acknowledged that fact. But I found the Founders papers absolutely saturated with references to God, the Christian faith, and the role of the faith on government and the individuals in that government. Did you know that since most of the Founders were Calvinists the very structure of limited government was a Calvinist concept? Calvinists not only believe civil government is ordained and established by God, they also believe that God has given civil government only limited authority. The same power that grants authority to government, also limits that authority. And these Calvinists influences go on and on in the founding structure of this nation. (Oct 25, 2007 | post #101)
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Concerning religion, people "have" to believe in something. There is not a vacuum filled by unbelief. We "all" believe in "something. " Ether the beliefs will be a secularist, atheistic belief system, or it will be in some form of a divine being. The definition of religion is: A religion is a set of beliefs and practices generally held by a human community, involving adherence to codified beliefs and rituals and study of ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. Everybody believes something, and even what appears to be a rejection of all beliefs is a kind of belief. One holds something to be true. Maybe what you hold to be true is that nothing else is true, but that is something that you believe is true in itself. This is not double talk. Even agnostics have a type of belief. They believe that it is not possible to know things about ultimate issues like the existence of God. My point is that there is no neutral place to position yourself in philosophic space. There is no place where you can place yourself in which you believe nothing and therefore don't take on some burden of proof about what it is that you hold. You can't fairly say, "Well, Christian, you believe this and you must prove this, but I have no burden of proof regarding what I believe because I believe nothing." There is no person who believes nothing about ultimate things, and even if you are agnostic you believe in the justifiability of your agnosticism -- your uncertainty -- and you really have a burden of proof to justify your uncertainty -- your unwillingness to decide -- to justify your agnosticism. So there is nowhere someone can stand where he has no beliefs. Pointing out the inconvenient truth: You won’t find many atheists feeding the hungry and ministering to the sick in places like Africa or Mother Teresa’s Calcutta. It is precisely because people believe in the divinity of Jesus that they are willing to give up their lives (sometimes literally) in service to those whom Jesus calls “His brothers.” And that’s why many folks spend their lives ministering in prisons, and other places helping the least, the last and the lost. It's hard for atheists to account for altruism. The atheistic view point offers no reason as to why someone might give up their lives, or even their lifstyle for the benefit of others, especially those whom they do not know. (Oct 25, 2007 | post #100)
that of the man who justified suicide, because the Bible says in one place, "Judas went and hanged himself," and in another. "Go thou, and do likewise.
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